Credit card or prepaid card -- Other features, terms, or problems -- Complaint #6383156

Complaint Overview

Complaint ID: 6383156

Company: Goldman Sachs Bank USA

Product: Credit card or prepaid card

Sub-Product: General-purpose credit card or charge card

Issue: Other features, terms, or problems

Sub-Issue: Other problem

State: Illinois

ZIP Code: 60620

Date Received: 2022-12-31T12:00:00-05:00

Date Sent to Company: 2022-12-31T12:00:00-05:00

Company Response: Closed with explanation

Timely Response: Yes

Consumer Disputed: N/A

Submitted Via: Web

Tags: Servicemember

Consumer Narrative

Company is claiming to be creditors. I found this mistake in the Card Agreement. Stating that " This Agreement is entered into between you and us in the State of Utah and " WE EXTEND CREDIT TO YOU '' from Utah. '' I am going to need proof of HOW they are creditors. How can they be a creditor AND a debtor? Where is my finance charge? If they are creditors, that would mean I myself the consumer, provided a finance charge. Here is the definition of a creditor by law. Creditor- ( g ) The term creditor refers only to a person who both ( 1 ) regularly extends, whether in connection with loans, sales of property or services, or otherwise, consumer credit which is payable by agreement in more than four installments or for which the payment of a finance charge is or may be required, and ( 2 ) is the person to whom the debt arising from the consumer credit transaction is initially payable on the face of the evidence of indebtedness or, if there is no such evidence of indebtedness, by agreement. Notwithstanding the preceding sentence, in the case of an open-end credit plan involving a credit card, the card issuer and any person who honors the credit card and offers a discount which is a finance charge are creditors. For the purpose of the requirements imposed under part D of this subchapter and sections 1637 ( a ) ( 5 ), 1637 ( a ) ( 6 ), 1637 ( a ) ( 7 ), 1637 ( b ) ( 1 ), 1637 ( b ) ( 2 ), 1637 ( b ) ( 3 ), 1637 ( b ) ( 8 ), and 1637 ( b ) ( 10 ) of this title, the term creditor shall also include card issuers whether or not the amount due is payable by agreement in more than four installments or the payment of a finance charge is or may be required, and the Bureau shall, by regulation, apply these requirements to such card issuers, to the extent appropriate, even though the requirements are by their terms applicable only to creditors offering open-end credit plans. Any person who originates 2 or more mortgages referred to in subsection ( aa ) in any 12-month period or any person who originates 1 or more such mortgages through a mortgage broker shall be considered to be a creditor for purposes of this subchapter. The term creditor includes a private educational lender ( as that term is defined in section 1650 of this title ) for purposes of this subchapter. They are in violation of 15 U.S. Code 1692e - False or misleading representations. Also they are in violation of 15 U.S. Code 1611- Criminal liability for willful and knowing violation.

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